00:00 Welcome to CIO Leadership Live. I’m Lee Rennick, Executive Director of CIO Communities for cio.com and00:00:11:15 – 00:00:16:00UnknownI’m very excited and honored today to welcome and introduce Kory Jeffrey, Principal and VP, Technology, Inovia. Kory please introduce yourself and tell us about your current role.00:00:16:00 – 00:00:48:03UnknownSure. Thanks for having me, Lee. I’m Kory, I, like you said I’m a Principal and VP technology. I know, yeah, Inovia is a, full stack, and venture capital investment firm and headquartered in Canada. Full stack. Just meaning we invest as early as company information all the way through to pre-IPO. So, it’s been around about 20 years.00:00:48:05 – 00:01:12:04UnknownOne of the the largest VC firms in the country. And I know I wear two hats. One hat is the principal hat, and that means I do, early stage tech investing. So for me particularly, that’s sort of the company formation to series B, where I focus, mostly on practical applications of artificial intelligence companies like Cahir Spell, spellbook, Reliant, Venture IQ and others that I’ve been involved with.00:01:12:06 – 00:01:39:07UnknownAnd then I also wear a hat, which is a VP of technology, where I work, in the CTO office, where, that’s across the entire portfolio company. So that’s working, with companies, we’re very small or very, very large, and helping them build world class, tech and product organizations.00:01:39:09 – 00:01:40:04UnknownYeah.00:01:40:04 – 00:01:48:13UnknownSo congrats for that. And just yeah, sharing about your role. I think it’ll be really informative for our listeners who are listening in today.00:01:48:15 – 00:02:05:18UnknownAnd I really appreciate you joining us, Corey. So as I mentioned, we’ve really developed this series to support the technology leader and CIO in their tech and leadership journey. And so the first question that I ask everyone this question on the show, could you please tell me a little bit, perhaps about your own career path and leadership journey to date?00:02:05:20 – 00:02:09:06UnknownAny lessons learned along the way that you could share with our audience?00:02:09:18 – 00:02:49:03UnknownYeah, sure. So I like to describe my career as sort of like sitting in the back of a moving truck, looking backwards and not. It’s not super intentional. I actually started my career academically, in, studying English literature and philosophy, epistemology and metaphysics. I was actually on my way to do my PhD in, in metaphysics, when, guy named Ian Clubman from Communitech pulled me aside and said, hey, why don’t you come and, help run this, startup technology accelerator with me and a couple other people?00:02:49:05 – 00:03:09:19UnknownYou know, I said, I don’t know anything about that. And he said, oh, you’re smart, you’ll figure it out. And so that got me into the startup world where I spent two years investing in companies. And this was at the time when Y Combinator had just started. So it was like this, like accelerator boom. Through that, I learned all about technology, fell in love with products, you know, started becoming technical.00:03:09:19 – 00:03:30:07UnknownI was then, introduced to Steve Woods, who ran engineering in Canada for Google, and was recruited to join Google, where I spent the better part of a decade, did a couple of things. So I ran developer relations in Canada. So that was you know, running developer communities, launching developer products, things like that.00:03:30:07 – 00:03:49:23UnknownI then spent a bunch of time in emerging markets where the next billion users were coming on to the internet Indonesia, India, Brazil, and got to understand what markets that were skipping, who had skipped the desktop revolution and went straight to mobile, how they were coming online and how they were building products. And then I started having kids.00:03:50:03 – 00:04:21:15UnknownThat was around 2016. And so it was time to have more of, a local role than spending. I think in 2016, I spent 100 days on an airplane, out of country, and I almost ran into tax problems, actually. So, then I switched over to be the chief of staff of engineering for Canada, where I helped grow the engineering organization in Canada for Google, for, about 200 when I started to just over 2000 when I left across all sorts of different product areas, research areas, all of the things the the transformer paper was published when I was there.00:04:21:15 – 00:04:44:03UnknownWe got to see that go through first party products, work a little bit with Jeff Hinton’s team. All those sorts of things. I would say a major lesson through all of that is that it’s all about people. You can do some really amazing, hard, inspiring things with great people and have it feel, fun and not easy.00:04:44:03 – 00:05:12:03UnknownBut, you know, it’s, invigorating. And you can do some really easy things, that feel absolutely terrible with crappy people. And so, you know, trust matters, people matters. Investing in people matters. So when past mentors of mine, Steve Woods being one of them, who had mentioned and then another guy named Patrick Bouchard, who is the CFO at Google, when I started there, they came and pitched me, I know, and I followed that and became took that opportunity to work with some great people that I’d worked with in the past.00:05:30:21 – 00:05:57:03UnknownYeah.00:05:57:05 – 00:06:05:19UnknownYep.00:06:05:21 – 00:06:42:01UnknownI mean.00:06:42:03 – 00:07:04:01UnknownYeah. I think that’s a that’s a good question. And it. I spent a lot of time doing due diligence on tech companies at various stages. You know, what they’re missing often is dependent on the stage they’re in and the levels of sophistication and how early versus later you are. But there’s a lot of themes. And so we sort of break it down into four buckets.00:07:04:03 – 00:07:22:07UnknownThe first is always and this is in order of importance in my in my view, the first is always people. And we talked a little bit about that and I’ll dive into it a little more. Then it’s product and product thinking and then it’s your engineering practice and then